On Tuesday’s episode of The View, Whoopi Goldberg delivered sharp criticism of President Donald Trump, likening his approach to running the country to the style he once displayed on his reality TV show, The Apprentice. The discussion occurred during a segment featuring ABC’s Jonathan Karl, who appeared to promote his new book, Retribution: Donald Trump and the Campaign That Changed America. Karl offered insights into Trump’s presidency, his potential political future, and what he perceives as the president’s current priorities.

Goldberg was vocal about her frustration with Trump’s leadership, especially regarding domestic issues. “Well, that’s our president. That’s our president, y’all. And so everything that’s happening in Europe and everything that’s happening outside of here seems to be what he’s all about,” Goldberg said. She added, “And he wants to make the U.S. The Apprentice,” referencing the reality competition show Trump once hosted. Goldberg’s comments reflected concern for everyday Americans, highlighting that government actions and delays, such as a possible shutdown, are “hurting people now.” She continued, “I actually need somebody to take care of these folks,” signaling her impatience with what she perceives as a leadership style more focused on spectacle than governance.

Karl provided context for Trump’s mindset, noting that while the president is rumored to be considering his legacy more seriously than in past terms, he is still heavily focused on symbolic projects, like the White House ballroom renovation, and high-profile diplomatic initiatives abroad. Karl suggested that Trump sees his role through the lens of historical impact rather than immediate policy outcomes. “He sees it in terms of, like, how the White House is transformed and how he’s lauded around the world as a great peacemaker,” Karl said.

The conversation also touched on the possibility of a 2028 presidential run. Karl indicated that, based on what Trump has told close associates, he is planning to leave office at the end of his current term. However, Karl noted that Trump enjoys maintaining attention and influence, comparing it to the competitive structure of The Apprentice. “The minute he makes it clear he’s not gonna try and run again, then all the attention goes. He’s a lame duck president then all the attention goes to Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance, whoever else might be running,” Karl explained. He added, “I’m sure he’d love to do The Apprentice thing and see who [will succeed him]. But at some point, does he really pass the baton and he’s no longer the center of attention? I don’t know how he does that.”

Goldberg’s skepticism about Trump’s priorities stood out during the discussion. While Karl framed the president’s focus as legacy-building, Goldberg emphasized the urgent needs of Americans who are affected by government inaction. “I don’t know if I want to play that game,” she said, underscoring the tension between Trump’s interest in historical legacy and the real-world consequences for citizens.

The segment highlighted contrasting perspectives on Trump’s presidency: Karl offered an interpretation focused on image and historical positioning, while Goldberg stressed immediate governance and accountability. Their discussion provided viewers with insight into ongoing debates about Trump’s priorities, his possible political plans, and the continuing tension between spectacle and policy in the final years of his term.